Online models/OnlyFans - FINO?

[jessmartin]

I'm not a fan of the slavery genre. IMHO, when you take away someone's freedom, you take away most of their personality. But I've been spending a lot of time on XHampster lately, and I'm wondering about a few things.

1: When a young lady makes her income by performing for strangers on the internet, how does that affect her? Her income depends on pleasing customers. She is technically free to switch off and leave at any time, but few of us are in a position to simply quit our jobs because we have bills to pay. So while her work might be 'voluntary,' she still has obligations that need a reliable income.

2: Does the mere act of performing on demand change her mindset? Does she become more submissive, start to see herself as a sex toy? Humans are very adaptable - we can learn to accept many things. But we are also programmable. People who have accepted a certain situation tend to go with it, and often find it hard to break out of it. So if a woman spends a few years performing on demand, can that affect her identity and sense of self? Maybe she falls into a pattern of seeing herself as a sex object and nothing more - making it hard to change her career path.

3: Are some of these ladies becoming FINO performers - trapped not by a contract, but by their own perceptions of themselves?

I'm interested to hear other people's opinions on this.

[Mr. Smith]

Ever since this comment was posted I have started looking at the models on Literotica for the "free" parts. I've never been to the Only Fans website. I confess, the 50+ category has me a little confused but to each their own. Some of these women are really polished like this is their fulltime job with their setups, outfits and makeup while others look like they are just trying it out from their bedrooms for extra cash. I could see them becoming trapped in this if the money is good enough and they have no other options and the 50+ age category would suggest longevity in the business is possible. I find the body types and looks interesting as I wonder how far they would go for a buck. Then again, so would anyone who dated them or got into a serious relationship. Just last night one rather unattractive young woman had a pale, fat and hairy male prop she was grinding herself on which for me was too cringworthy to watch.

It would be interesting plot in a legal slavery story for a woman to do this type of live video show and lose her fulltime job leading to her missing payments and foreclosed upon. I guess the theory for the business would be it was more interesting, and men would pay, to watch a free woman act this way for cash than to just order a slave to perform who has no choice in the matter. Just one more way to debase a free woman. I could see this working for a school teacher needing to pay off her student loans on the low paying salary to avoid defaulting on her loans only to lose her job triggering a default. I mean, during the day I teach kindergarten and at nigh I become a video slut with a vibrator you can buzz up my womb. In private shows I have an assortment of dildos and whips that I can use on myself for your entertainment. Then she gets busted. Since she cannot see her clients you could have one paying her to do all sorts of things and then ending with a message. Miss Bowers, please be in my office tomorrow morning 7:45 am sharp. Principle Johnson.

[Mr. Smith]

Ever since this comment was posted I have started looking at the models on Literotica for the "free" parts. I've never been to the Only Fans website. I confess, the 50+ category has me a little confused but to each their own. Some of these women are really polished like this is their fulltime job with their setups, outfits and makeup while others look like they are just trying it out from their bedrooms for extra cash.

Agreed. I think most try it out to get some extra cash - the ones who succeed will make it a full-time job, and purchase outfits, toys, props etc to make it more profitable. As with any career, there are many people at the bottom trying to get their "break" - while a handful at the top are taking the cash home in wheelbarrows. Top Hollywood stars make tens of millions per movie - but there are thousands of hopefuls who get minimum wage as extras, and rely on other jobs to earn a steady paycheck.

I could see them becoming trapped in this if the money is good enough and they have no other options and the 50+ age category would suggest longevity in the business is possible. I find the body types and looks interesting as I wonder how far they would go for a buck. Then again, so would anyone who dated them or got into a serious relationship. Just last night one rather unattractive young woman had a pale, fat and hairy male prop she was grinding herself on which for me was too cringworthy to watch.

I suspect the old/overweight or unattractive models have a niche audience that has a macabre fascination - or just likes to laugh at them.

It would be interesting plot in a legal slavery story for a woman to do this type of live video show and lose her fulltime job leading to her missing payments and foreclosed upon. I guess the theory for the business would be it was more interesting, and men would pay, to watch a free woman act this way for cash than to just order a slave to perform who has no choice in the matter. Just one more way to debase a free woman. I could see this working for a school teacher needing to pay off her student loans on the low paying salary to avoid defaulting on her loans only to lose her job triggering a default. I mean, during the day I teach kindergarten and at nigh I become a video slut with a vibrator you can buzz up my womb. In private shows I have an assortment of dildos and whips that I can use on myself for your entertainment. Then she gets busted. Since she cannot see her clients you could have one paying her to do all sorts of things and then ending with a message. Miss Bowers, please be in my office tomorrow morning 7:45 am sharp. Principle Johnson.

In a "slavery" scenario, this would certainly be an option for a woman who was facing financial difficulties. Performing on the internet to pay her bills would allow her to stay free. But my main point when making this post was about the psychological element.

Some years ago I met a couple of young ladies on adult forums who told me that they had taken to escort work to improve their financial situation. Both were educated and had decent jobs, they weren't streetwalkers who needed to feed a drug habit. Both had, shall we say, "adventurous" backgrounds, which meant they were less inhibited when it came to having sex for money. They didn't have the same reservations that most women would. (Though TBH, from what I gathered while chatting to them, I think both would have really appreciated a committed relationship.) And both made the same comment: "It's what I'm for."

That comment makes me wonder about the effect this kind of work has. Even if a woman is only performing for a camera, she is still a sex worker, performing for strangers. And after a while, she might take that as part of her identity. How does this affect her in the long term? The few that make a good living might be OK with it - but what about the many more who get into that mindset while not getting rich enough to break out of that industry?

As long as a woman is making more as a camgirl than she would in a regular job, she has little incentive to stop. But if she's caught in a situation where she relies on that job, while not being able to make enough to walk away, where does that leave her?

[Mr. Smith]

As long as a woman is making more as a camgirl than she would in a regular job, she has little incentive to stop.

I don't know everything the cam girls do to earn a buck but occasionally they are paired up with another girl or man. I noticed that there is a menu by age, ethnicity, body characteristics and certain sex acts so I assume they end up putting on live sex shows. I suspect that women who perform in sex work activities (porn, cam girl, or prostitution) risk limiting their future endeavors whether it be certain types of employment or long term relationships when certain of their "acts" are permanently online. I wonder how many of the cam girls end up prostituting themselves when the price is right. They get asked out on a date for example having to reply, "Sorry, I'm working Friday night" and if they are honest "Me and a girlfriend are the entertainment at a bachelor party or I have a date with a 55 year old many that wants to go ATM on me" or you can watch me fuck myself with a dildo for money online."

How does it affect them? I would think they either try to hide it to avoid or openly embrace it but most likely they are either nymphos who cannot get enough sex which is rare or they would burn out on sex and become cold and uninterested in intimacy with a partner. Say they just worked an eight hour shift with a vibrator up their pussies online trying to coax men to make it vibrate for a fee and then get paid to masturbate or fuck themselves with a dildo for more money. I doubt they are going to go home and want to hop in the sack with a boyfriend. Just saying.

[jeepster]

A lot of these girls are using AI to "improve" their look! You see a pic of a girl with smallish tits and then a pic of her with big tatas! The kind no woman wants to live with forever!

[Mr. Smith]

No idea they could do that with AI. Guess I will have to enjoy vintage porn now.

[SteveBurke]

How does it affect them? I would think they either try to hide it to avoid or openly embrace it but most likely they are either nymphos who cannot get enough sex which is rare or they would burn out on sex and become cold and uninterested in intimacy with a partner. Say they just worked an eight hour shift with a vibrator up their pussies online trying to coax men to make it vibrate for a fee and then get paid to masturbate or fuck themselves with a dildo for more money. I doubt they are going to go home and want to hop in the sack with a boyfriend. Just saying.

Yes, that's the kind of change that I'm wondering about. Would they become sex addicts - or emotionally distant women who could no longer find satisfaction with a partner?

[imreadonly2]

I'm reminded of the case of Katherine Sears, the Des Moines lawyer who had a second life in Las Vegas working as a prostitute. She went public, to de-stigmatize sex workers, and also defends sex workers as part of her practice.

In real life, she seems to have no problem keeping her personas separate. However, in Joe Doe land, I've always pictured scenarios where she appears in hooker garb in front of the same judge whom she had argued cases in front of, and who mentored her, only he doesn't really notice her because she is with a dozen other girls who were picked up in a sweep and remanded into custody. Her bored public defender just wants her to plead out and server her 30 days in County, and barely pays any attention to her, telling her that if she puts out in jail for the horny guards she'll do easy time. Katherine / Katie experiences the weight of the law from the other side, becoming trapped in her new persona.

[Mr. Smith]

I suspect in Joedoeland she would be sentenced to 180 days wearing a collar, likely slaving away in a brothel working on improving her technique.

With legal slavery most forms of prostitution would likely not be financially viable although Carl has written in a few of his stories about men who like dominating free women who chose to perform these sex acts so there could be a more high end market to address these men's kinks. The same could go for free women debasing themselves as cam girls as slaves have not choice.

Katherine Sears is a looker. Joe has mentioned her a couple of times. Maybe a story here where a lawyer moonlights as a FINO slave prostitute to pay the bills and fulfill some of he kinkier needs.

[bra_lover]

I suspect in Joedoeland she would be sentenced to 180 days wearing a collar, likely slaving away in a brothel working on improving her technique.

With legal slavery most forms of prostitution would likely not be financially viable although Carl has written in a few of his stories about men who like dominating free women who chose to perform these sex acts so there could be a more high end market to address these men's kinks. The same could go for free women debasing themselves as cam girls as slaves have not choice.

Katherine Sears is a looker. Joe has mentioned her a couple of times. Maybe a story here where a lawyer moonlights as a FINO slave prostitute to pay the bills and fulfill some of he kinkier needs.

Legal slavery would reduce the market for prostitution, but not eliminate it. After all, a slave is going to be expensive - purchase and upkeep. Not everyone can afford that - but many men would pay for a night with a hot, submissive woman.

There's also the possibility that free women might hire themselves out for the adventure. It's a recurring theme in the slavery stories that high-class women fantasise about being slaves - being part-time prostitutes would let them explore that fantasy within safe limits, since they can call it off any time they want.

This site, (and it's predecessors,) has always had a M/f theme. So I'm sure most of the women here like to imagine themselves on the submissive side. The idea of being a part-time slave or hooker probably has some appeal.

Thoughts ladies?

[Mr. Smith]

SteveBurke wrote:
"This site, (and it's predecessors,) has always had a M/f theme."

My most recent story has a F/m theme but somehow I'm finding myself pushing her into a submissive role or should I say situation. Maybe its instinct or just a preference as I try to mix things up.

[jeepster]

Here is a perfect example!

[jeepster]

https://www.https://www.literotica.com/ ... 38YMhSi8N/

[Mr. Smith]

Jeepster,

It didn't open when I clicked on it. Now I'm curious.

[imreadonly2]

There are several Joe Doe stories on the other site that have hooker elements, where the woman lives out some sort of prostitution fantasy that gets out of hand.

On of my favorites of this genre was LA PUTA by Dr. Watson, which disappeared when asstr.org vanished. A bilingual woman goes to a country in Central America with her husband, who is managing an oil project. He goes as the project supervisor, she comes down out of the hills and pretends to be a whore. She is tatted on her thigh with a P, photographed, registered, and put to work with the the other girls servicing her husband's employees, for the US equivalent of a little over 25 cents per trick. Her husband is able to observe her and use her, but of course can't ever intercede on her behalf, lest her cover be blown. At the end, the police captain, who had figured out the deception, gives the husband her registration papers as a souvenir.

I've wanted to write a comparison contrast story where a lawyer visits a jail to talk to her hooker client, and as the hooker describes what has happened to her the lawyer flashes back to her own experiences as a streetwalker during her visits over-the-border. So many ideas, so little time.

[jeepster]

There are several Joe Doe stories on the other site that have hooker elements, where the woman lives out some sort of prostitution fantasy that gets out of hand.

On of my favorites of this genre was LA PUTA by Dr. Watson, which disappeared when asstr.org vanished. A bilingual woman goes to a country in Central America with her husband, who is managing an oil project. He goes as the project supervisor, she comes down out of the hills and pretends to be a whore. She is tatted on her thigh with a P, photographed, registered, and put to work with the the other girls servicing her husband's employees, for the US equivalent of a little over 25 cents per trick. Her husband is able to observe her and use her, but of course can't ever intercede on her behalf, lest her cover be blown. At the end, the police captain, who had figured out the deception, gives the husband her registration papers as a souvenir.

I've wanted to write a comparison contrast story where a lawyer visits a jail to talk to her hooker client, and as the hooker describes what has happened to her the lawyer flashes back to her own experiences as a streetwalker during her visits over-the-border. So many ideas, so little time.

There are many possibilities with that theme - one being a "Hooker safari" where high-class women pay to be trained as streetwalkers - then forced to live the life for a month. It would take place in a foreign country with few civil rights and their passports would be kept by the company to make sure they had to serve their term... They might even have to service a set number of clients before they are allowed to leave...

[imreadonly2]

I had imagined a sequel to La Puta where she is leading the Senior High School Spanish class to a school trip to the Central American country, to see the ruins. When she is swimming in the hotel pool the P on her thigh is recognized by an outraged older woman who calls the police. She is taken to the station, and her fine is paid by a pimp, who puts her to work in the red light district, where she has to sit in the window with the good on display. To help her out, her students go to the brothel to repeatedly use her, to help her pay down her debt in American dollars so she can go home with them.

[underdog_13]

On of my favorites of this genre was LA PUTA by Dr. Watson, which disappeared when asstr.org vanished.

This story still can be found at ASSTR mirror site, here:
https://asstr.xyz/files/Collections/Old ... /Wifeslut/
https://asstr.xyz/files/Collections/Old ... Watson.txt

[Greyman]

https://www.https://www.literotica.com/ ... 38YMhSi8N/

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[Johnny Lawrence]

I've got a handful of stories in progress with some similar themes. Real life schedule leaves little time for writing, but hopefully I can finish one or two of them in the next few weeks.

Love the idea of a beautiful professional woman letting herself succumb to her dark fantasies, only to discover that she's now trapped in that life.